#ncpol: ‘Occupy Elaine’ & co. aiding pro-Hillary electoral college coup attempt?
Apparently, Elaine Marshall’s office thinks I am a presidential elector. (One of the secretary of state’s duties is to oversee our state’s participation in The Electoral College. ) I’m getting email from those folks:
[…] Sent: Wed, Nov 23, 2016 3:25 pm
Subject: The Secretary of State has received the attached letters addressed to the electorsDear elector:
As you know, the North Carolina Department of the Secretary of State administers the Electoral College. In other words, we staff the Electoral College.
We have received the enclosed letters addressed to “the electors c/o North Carolina Department of State”. I am, therefore, forwarding them to you, as one of the North Carolina electors.
Regards, Ann
Ann B. Wall
General Counsel
Department of the Secretary of State
Phone (919) 807-2005
Fax (919) 807-2010Please note: My email address has changed to awall@sosnc.gov. Please update your records.
E-mail correspondence to and from this sender may be subject to the North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.[…]
Hmm. What’s the precedent for forwarding correspondence from third parties to our presidential electors? Click HERE
and HERE to see what got forwarded to the electors.
In case you were sleeping during civics class, or the evening of November 8th, Donald Trump won North Carolina and therefore won our electoral votes. WHY pray tell, is a duly-elected constitutional officer of our state government being so helpful to leftists seeking to subvert a system that has worked so well for our country for most of its existence?
That’s what at least one other presidential elector wanted wanted to know:
[…] Date: Nov 23, 2016 11:18 PM
Subject: Fwd: The Secretary of State has received the attached letters addressed to the electors
To: <katie.kouba@ncgop.org>
Cc:
Hi, Katie,I noticed that Ann Wall (North Carolina Secretary of State, Elaine Marshall’s legal counsel) does not bother to Blind CC the email addresses of the electors, as is shown by her e-mail attached below.
Is it possible this is how our e-mails were released to the folks who are asking us to vote for Mrs. Clinton?
Thanks,
Mark Delk […]
Here’s another chiming in:
From: David Speight
To: Mark Delk
Sent: Thu, Nov 24, 2016 4:12 am
Subject: Re: The Secretary of State has received the attached letters addressed to the electorsAnd she forwarded an email asking us to violate the law (N.C. G.S. 163-212)
[…]
Here’s more from Mr. Delk:
From: “Mark Delk”
Date: Nov 24, 2016 10:06 AM
Subject: Have we notified the alternates? Marshall’s participation in the Faithless Electors movement.
To:
Cc:Katie,
I think David raises a very good point. I too am concerned by Miss Wall’s encouragement or assistance of Clinton supporters in their quest to cause havoc in our party. It is difficult for me to forget that Mrs. Marshall ran for U.S. Senate in 2010 against Senator Burr and received the backing of the Clinton family. Unlike you I do not have a great deal of faith in Mrs. Marshall.
Related to these request that we violate our oath I have the following concerns:
My understanding is that NCGS 163-212 imposes a civil penalty if we don’t show up o
r if we vote for someone other than our party’s candidate and that any failure to vote for the nominee of our party constitutes a resignation.
I think the relevant language is “In addition to such forfeiture, refusal or failure to vote for the candidates of the political party which nominated such elector shall constitute a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded, and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill such vacancy as hereinbefore provided.” (emphasis added.)
I also understand that NCGS 163-209.1 references first and second alternates as follows “the Secretary of State shall notify each political party authorized to nominate electors of (i) the requirement under G.S. 163-1(c) to nominate first and second alternate electors, ” (emphasis added.)
NCGS 163-1C provides ” One presidential elector shall be nominated from each congressional district and two from the state-at-large, and in addition, the State convention of each party and the unaffiliated candidate shall each nominate first and second alternate electors who shall serve if their slate is elected as provided by G.S. 163-209 and if there is a vacancy as provided by G.S. 163-210.” (emphasis added.)
NCGS 163-210 further provides “In case of the absence, ineligibility or resignation of any elector chosen, or if the proper number of electors shall for any cause be deficient, the first and second
alternates, respectively, who were nominated under G.S. 163-1(c), shall fill the first two vacancies.” (emphasis added.) If there are more than two vacancies or resignations we the remaining electors choose replacements.
Given this provision I was puzzled by my friend Marcus Kindley had not been notified of the Elector’s Meeting. My understanding is that he was elected as one of the alternates required by NCGS 163-1(c).I know we had a lot of turmoil in and around January of this year but I hope we don’t forget people like Marcus who have been very faithful Republicans. These people are the heart and soul of the NCGOP. They often do things for the party that go in-noticed but which help the party in it’s mission greatly.
If you have not done so already. Please notify the alternates. An apology from NCGOP Leadership for the oversight might help as well.
Your continued assistance to determine whether Mrs Marshall or her staff has/have leaked our confidential information would also be appreciated.
Thank you for your assistance in these matters.
Sincerely
Mark Delk
Presidential Elector
NC Congressional District 11
The people of Harnett County in 1994 determined Elaine Marshall was too liberal and wacky to represent them in the NC Senate. In 2010, she was determined to be too wacko to represent us in the US Senate. Yet, somehow, it’s A-OKAY to let her roost in one of our state’s most important constitutional offices.
In 2012, Ol’ Elaine was showing a whole lotta love to George Soros’s Occupy Wall Street. In 2016, she got caught ignoring state law about illegal immigrants.
At some point, we’re going to find the tipping point with this loon.
Can’t the legislature impeach her? She is what Margaret Thatcher used to call the ”loony left”.
I will never vote for Elaine Marshall again if they change our vote. Trump won and he should have the vote! What in the world is wrong with these people!
Elaine Marshall and Democrats like her is why I am no longer a Democrat.
Get over it, NC put up with 8 yrs of Obama and other Washington liberal an didn’t whine everyday.
Yes get over it. You are the reasons we Americans feel the way we do. All democrats are communist or they would want to do what is right. But you want to cheat your way to get everything you want, no matter the cost. Life don’t work that way. We had to put up with the nut in the WH for 8 yrs so now your turn. Hope u are as miserablet as we were. LIVE WITH IT.
It is my understanding that the national Democratic Party has been putting lots of money into state Sec. of State offices around the nation for a very long time, so they can cheat. The Democratic Party has been a thug party and a racist party since before I was born. And it’s not that I find the Republican Party faultless by any means. Democrats are just much worse.
A few years ago I called my local elections office to ask a question concerning the integrity of the voting process. I must have reached the only Republican in that office. The person whispered the answer to my question to me, and said that they had to be very careful because they were the only conservative in the office. This is in a county that is probably split about 50-50 Democrat/Republican.
George Soros is the one who put big money into taking over the Secretary of State offices around the country. He did it because most of them run the election process. Ours does not, so I never heard of him bothering with NC. This was a big focus of his after the 2000 recount in Florida but not so much lately.
In 2016, Soros put his money into attacking Voter ID laws in court, and ours was one he put big money into attacking. Soros also put his money into the round reverend’s operation like ”Moral Monday” and he maxed out to Roy Cooper’s campaign.
You just answered my question. I wanted to know how she got re-elected.
I have received 1127 emails, 10 letters, and numerous phone calls begging me to cast my electoral vote for anyone other than Trump. Some have even offered to pay my fine. Their comments make me look like a fool if I cast a vote for Trump.
These emails are definitely clogging my inbox, preventing me from reading my personal emails in a timely manner. Anyone who helps these people who are doing this needs to be impeached if they are an elected official.
It’s difficult to imagine that a candidate like trump can win an election in America. We can no longer take the moral high ground around the world. Regardless of politics, the kind of posts on this site are shameful to us all. We have lost our dignity and something mean and ugly has taken it’s place.
Mean and ugly and no dignity? That sounds like Obama to me, or Roy Cooper.
This is an INSULT to the United States Constitution and our founding fathers who set up the Electoral College to prevent the larger states from ruling the country. To even have the nerve to try and sway votes away from the people should be an act of TREASON across the United States, if ANY Delegate changes their vote against the will of the people!!!!!!!
DONALD J TRUMP WON…….WHY ARE DEMOCRATS CHEATING??? WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO BUY VOTES ??? I DO BELIEVE THAT ELAINE MARSHALL IS CHEATING, SO SHE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED…
This is their method of doing the wishes of the people. they all lie once elected; she was elected? Then…. yep!