NCGOP okey-dokey with felons in leadership
You might remember this story. Folks in Granville County got upset over reports they were hearing, and decided to put forth a resolution barring convicted felons — especially sex offenders — from holding NCGOP leadership positions. The NC Dems have a ban like this. Seventeen counties endorsed the idea. The resolution included an exception for people who had their voting rights, records expunged, or other rights restored. What could be the problem?
At this weekend’s NCGOP state convention, it apparently was a HUGE problem. There was an attempt to present the felon ban resolution to the convention as a whole. It was shot down without discussion, and the sponsors were verbally abused for daring to even bring the subject up. You would have thought someone said something naughty about lil’ Timmy’s mama.
Wait. RINOs assaulted us with haughty fake outrage over all the tickets Madison Cawthorn got. They tsked-tsked over some bawdy photos and videos. None of that is illegal. He wasn’t convicted of anything. Yet, he had to be removed forthwith and post-haste from office. (Never mind that he was one of the few congressmen we have who actually showed some loyalty to the GOP platform.)
Yet, the NCGOPe is turning somersaults to defend a certain party leader convicted of multiple counts of sex-related offenses. This leader actually DID TIME. He currently holds a party office. A legislative fundraiser was held at his house. The party is planning very soon to hold a fundraiser for the 2022 judicial candidates at his house.
How does the NCGOPe justify criticizing anyone else’s morals when they aggressively fight to keep a certain convicted felon in a prominent leadership role? Or when they refuse to ban OTHER felons from their leadership ranks?
I was at the Convention last weekend and I voted to bring the felon ban to the floor for a debate. I have noticed that at the last 2 State Conventions, there seems to be a NASCAR caucus taking shape aka we are in a hurry and could care less about party business.
Also, bad scheduling is to blame too, only doing resolutions on Friday PM and dismissing at 4:15 PM is terrible, also discussing the platform at 11:45 AM (right before lunch) is poor and then the P.O.O on Saturday Afternoon at 3:45 PM.
Also starting a morning business session at 10:30 AM is too late and 2:30 PM for Saturday PM Session is terrible.
Go back to 2019 and before that when business was done as a whole, when you were done with resolutions, you immediately move on to platform, don’;t break them up like the last 2 years have.
Regardless of how you feel about this proposed Plan of Organization change, lets at least have a DEBATE!!!!
I hope and pray next year will be different, this was my 8th state convention and it was definitely the worst one. Why have so many of my fellow delegates shut out party business? PARTY BUSINESS is the number one purpose of a State Convention, I can watch candidate speeches and go to cocktail parties anywhere!!!!
Sorry but what you described is why I stayed home. Sounds like normal operations compared to all the ones I had attended in the past and sadly it is never going to get any better only Evil people control the party at this point as I guess they have for the last 20 years just did not realize it back then when one thought “oh they are Republicans they are going to be honorable people” but then you see that they are not and then the more you question things you realize how terrible they are
Years ago the grassroots mattered to the Republican Party in North Carolina, and the party was proud to function as a bottom-up organization. Beginning with the election of Bill Cobey as chairman, the party has gradually flipped to a top-down operation, where conventions and party governing boards are viewed as only window dressing. Under Whatley, it has become even more top-down.
Conventions and state executive committee meetings, and I am told even central committee meetings, are stacked with incessant reports of everyone under the sun so there is no time for any real business. If new business is even listed on the agenda, there is often one or more people set up to move to adjourn so that will never happen.
Everything is decided by the Raleigh power structure and the rest of the party is just used as a cheering section.
We need a change, and we need a grassroots-oriented chairman who will go back to the bottom-up model.
I’ve been saying for years that the NCGOP cannot not be reformed from its late stage establishment cancer and that conservatives should bolt en masse and create their own political machine. Conservatives will NEVER advance their agenda within the structure of the NCGOP and the RNC.
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Yes your observations are correct.
Half of the Business day on Sat was a Pony Show.
Billy’s mischaracterization of a “rule change to prohibit felons from serving” aided the 2/3s death of hearing the change.
Good one Billy.
My delegation was disgusted. Doubt they will be back. Is this Winning?
cw
Robert’s Rules of Order emphasizes that a meeting Chairman must be fair and impartial to the nth degree. We don’t receive that because the Chairman delivers the result his paymasters require. Which explains why we witnessed a high tech lynching back in 2016 and why we’ve never had an honest Chairman’s election since 2015.
You’re exactly right. The 2015 convention was the last gasp of the Republican grassroots in North Carolina. The NCGOPe players immediately sprang into action to undermine the results of that convention. By 2016 they had by nefarious means erased the will of the previous convention and installed their own shady pieces of the puzzle.
They’ve held power with an iron grip ever since. All the while honest informed Republicans have been appalled and embarrassed by this present incarnation of our party. It is difficult to stomach all this even with the realization that for many of us the Republican Party is the best way to have access to the election process. Finding myself backed into this corner is not a position I care much for.
Billy Miller is a slick dude who is very adept at creating an illusion of fairness and objectivity while manipulating events to deliver the result the establishment wants. Those who watch him closely, and too few do, can see what he is doing. His rulings and those he chooses to call upon speak volumes.
One example is the 2021 convention, when chairman Whatley did not want the Resolutions report heard. Miller played stall ball to drag things out to help stop that report being heard. He kept the convention at a lengthy standstill waiting for a final count on the vice chairman’s race, when the convention could have gone ahead and heard a presentation of the report even if they were not yet able to vote on it. Whatley also stopped the executive committee meeting after the convention from acting on the resolutions by planting two people, including Hise who made the motion, to move to adjourn before new business was reached.
Miller also helped the establishment play stall ball to steal the election of the National Committeewoman in 2016. That led to using a standing vote, widely seen as incorrectly counted, instead of the usual roll call vote.
Then there was the “impeachment” charade against Hasan Harnett presiding over by Miller. In that spectacle, Miller was very careful to call on the “right” people and not the “wrong” ones. Among the shananigans was the immediate vote for a replacement, which should not have happened. The set up for that was carefully choreographed by Miller. Also one woman was repeatedly trying to get heard and Miller was brazenly stopping her, so I later went over and asked what she wanted to get in. It turned out that in her county, the General Counsel of the state party had made a ruling that if applied to the Harnett situation would have blown the establishment’s impeachment case out of the water. Miller was very active in keeping her shut up to suppress than information. I wish I had spoken to her earlier when it would have been timely to assist in getting that information in front of the meeting.
The list of Miller’s manipulations could go on. He is not what he is very skillful at appearing to be.
The NASCAR caucus controlling our conventions are one of the reasons I didn’t attend this year. These conventions are not about party business. They are about everything other than business. I resent having my time and money wasted while I’m used as a stage prop and dupe. I’ll not be quitting the Party, but my caucus associations will be with more meaningful groups. I won’t be wasting my time with crooked snakes and their rigged games.
Morning, my name is Michael Magnanti. I am the current Vice-Chairman of the Granville County Republican Party, and the Chairman of the District 4 Plan of Organization Committee. I am also one of the primary authors of what we attempted to propose at this week’s convention.
Want to, make sure that everyone knows Chairman Whatley, and the Leadership team was very gracious and helpful during the entire process. Everyone we consulted with was for the process and agnostic in reference to the content. Convention Chairman Miller was gracious and when I made a couple of mistakes he guided me instead of shutting us down. Our Chairman is for the process as are we. Next year will be different. We know better and next year we will do better.
To be clear, we do not know the person being referred to personally and this individual was not the motivation for the proposal. Only met him once and when we saw him face to face at the convention on Friday morning I did not know who he was. To suggest anything otherwise isn’t true. It is true that he would have been affected, perhaps, but that would really be up to his county or district.
We understand that context is essential in most situations so we offered a way for the respective committee to implement the change as they saw fit. Unfortunately, we didn’t get the opportunity to explain that on the floor.
The thing that concerns us most is we couldn’t get 2/3 of the room to agree we should have the discussion. Having in our governing documents that rapists, murderers, and pedophiles are not qualified to serve in leadership is a pretty low bar and not all that controversial. Having these tools available is a positive way to protect the most vulnerable in our party from predators.
This issue isn’t going away just because some were afraid to discuss it. I am certain that we will hear it, and vote on it next year at the 2023 State Convention. An iteration has already passed in Vance, Franklin, Person, Granville, Orange, and Duplin counties, and also in District 4. Next year it will pass in more counties and hopefully in more districts.
We encourage you to take a look at what we proposed which specifically says any crimes against minors, the elderly, and/or the disabled. These are the most vulnerable among us.
For the record, we are against pedophiles, rapists, and murderers, and for that, we don’t apologize.
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The 2/3rds is to make sure that the party elites maintain control and when they do happen to loose control they do everything to get it back even if they have to oust a delegate elected state chairman and then replace them with a elite chosen one that got busted by the FBI
The party is corrupt sure they will play nice to your face but they are snakes behind the scenes
I support this work.
Kyshia Brassington
RNC Committeewoman NC
The current leadership (Chairman) has been quietly doing back room deals. He controls who gets elected to Executive and Central Committee. He has slowly pushed out the folks who were back bone of party and replaced them with Yes People. Recently examples of District Chair of the 9th was pushed out when redistricting occured. Every one was told new elections for districts cause racial changes. Leadership behind closed doors maneuvers has it differently. THERE IS LOT OF DAMAGE AND INTERNAL BS. TAKING NCGOP DOWN. Watch we will lose good patriots and races cause Chairman has the leash on those in leadership.
This is just a petty pissing match from chronic losers who can’t deliver votes the way Harvey can.
He and I were on the other side in a recent primary. My guy won but he delivered more than 500 votes from his tiny county for his guy. Obviously no one in Washington County, where probably every single person knows this story, gives a shit. If people have a problem with Harvey, take it up at the First CD meeting.
These pathetic whiners never win anything, and always blame “vote fraud” every time they get their asses kicked, which is every time. How much money have any of you raised or donated to take back our Supreme Court from the Communist Freaks currently running it?