Thilli$$$: No more controver$$$y, plea$$$e. (I need to get PAID.)

Thom Tillis is out there preaching that national Republicans can learn a lesson from Pat McCrory about — get this — moving too far to the right:

For all the GOP’s elect­or­al suc­cess this year, Sen. Thom Tillis says the party should see North Car­o­lina’s gubernat­ori­al race—in which the state fired the first Re­pub­lic­an gov­ernor it’s had in 20 years—as a cau­tion­ary tale.

The former state House speak­er, who over­saw the cham­ber dur­ing Re­pub­lic­ans’ in­cre­ment­al takeover of power in Raleigh, is vow­ing to work across the aisle in the Sen­ate in the next Con­gress. And he wants his party in Wash­ing­ton to ex­er­cise cau­tion in in­ter­pret­ing its man­date from voters in Novem­ber. If not, Tillis said in an in­ter­view from his Sen­ate of­fice last week, na­tion­al Re­pub­lic­ans could be de­railed by the type of dis­trac­tions he be­lieves cost Gov. Pat Mc­Crory his reelec­tion.

“The elect­or­ate of North Car­o­lina really is a mi­cro­cosm of the U.S. elect­or­ate,” said Tillis. “It’s a barely right-of-cen­ter state. … When you wade too far in­to some of the more con­tro­ver­sial so­cial is­sues, then you be­gin to see an in­creas­ing amount of op­pos­i­tion.” […] 

Let’s see.  The GOP HELD its legislative majorities and had a net gain of TWO seats on the Council of State.  The party held all of its seats in Congress.  Donald Trump won the state decisively.  AND it’s THE REPUBLICANS that have a problem ???

Pat McCrory’s problems were 100 percent self-made, and they had little to nothing to do with being “too far to the right.”  MORE: 

[…] In par­tic­u­lar, Tillis ref­er­enced the state’s con­tro­ver­sial “bath­room bill,” which sought to reg­u­late which re­strooms trans­gendered people can use. The is­sue drew na­tion­al cri­ti­cism and cost Re­pub­lic­ans the gov­ernor­ship, even as the state voted de­cis­ively for Don­ald Trump.

“We had the fast­est-grow­ing state eco­nomy in the U.S, we were in the fourth quart­ile by just about every oth­er meas­ure when I took the gavel in 2011, … one of the most pop­u­lar places for busi­ness re­lo­ca­tion,” Tillis said of the state. “All that should have been the mes­sage and it wasn’t; it was over­shad­owed.”

Tillis, who spent four years as speak­er of a ram­bunc­tious state House, is de­term­ined not to let that hap­pen in the Sen­ate. And as the first-term Re­pub­lic­an, whose met­eor­ic rise in North Car­o­lina earned him the fa­vor of na­tion­al Re­pub­lic­ans in his 2014 race, settles in­to the slower pace of the up­per cham­ber, he’s carving out a role as a bridge-build­er, de­term­ined to make sure Re­pub­lic­ans stay on track.

“I’m here to find those people who are genu­inely in­ter­ested in solv­ing prob­lems,” said Tillis, who reg­u­larly re­quests get-to-know-you meet­ings with mem­bers of both parties.[…] 

Okay.  I guess he was just lying kidding with all that talk during the campaign about stopping Obama and killing Obamacare. MORE: 

[…] He’s already met with two in­com­ing Sen­ate Demo­crats, in­clud­ing Sen.-elect Kamala Har­ris of Cali­for­nia. Tillis said he was eager to work with the former state at­tor­ney gen­er­al on sen­ten­cing and ju­di­cial re­form—an is­sue on which he’s already co­sponsored bi­par­tis­an le­gis­la­tion. He made news on that top­ic earli­er this month, sug­gest­ing he wouldn’t seek reelec­tion in 2020 if the Sen­ate didn’t make mean­ing­ful pro­gress on it and oth­er is­sues. He doubled down on that claim in the in­ter­view, but said he did not have his sights set on any oth­er jobs.

*Yep. Bringing California’s criminal justice practices nationwide.  THAT is why we sent him to DC.  Yep.  That’s it.*

[…] Tillis, who be­came speak­er after just four years in the state House, had floated the idea of chair­ing the Na­tion­al Re­pub­lic­an Sen­at­ori­al Com­mit­tee be­fore even win­ning his Sen­ate seat in 2014. He was even­tu­ally passed over by an­oth­er class-of-2014 sen­at­or, Col­or­ado’s Cory Gard­ner, and will in­stead serve as the com­mit­tee’s fin­ance chair[...]

Oh, finance chairman.  Of cour$$$$$$$$$$$$$e …

[…] Still, Tillis’s col­leagues sus­pect he’s on a path for lead­er­ship. And des­pite a rap­id ca­reer as­cent in both con­sult­ing and the state le­gis­lature, Tillis in­sisted he wasn’t de­terred by the Sen­ate’s slow-mov­ing pace.

In a brief hall­way in­ter­view, North Car­o­lina’s seni­or sen­at­or, Richard Burr, lauded Tillis’s quick rise in North Car­o­lina, call­ing him a “nat­ur­al lead­er” with tons of ex­per­i­ence. But, Burr said: “Thom is also in a class where the en­tire class, in their own way, brings a unique tal­ent to the Sen­ate.”

If Tillis does run again, a re­cord of bi­par­tis­an­ship will be a help­ful pitch in a state that’s ex­pec­ted to turn blu­er in com­ing years. North Car­o­lina’s rap­idly shift­ing demo­graph­ics have made it a con­sist­ently ap­peal­ing tar­get for Demo­crats, even after some re­cent fail­ures.

“This idea of these states like a North Car­o­lina that are purple states destined to be blue, I think may be work­ing on an as­sump­tion that doesn’t have to be true,” Tillis said. He lis­ted strong na­tion­al de­fense, lim­ited gov­ern­ment, and even Second Amend­ment and an­ti­abor­tion meas­ures as policies the party can move for­ward on if it does so care­fully, and with al­lies from across the aisle.

*Yep, that’s why we voted you in — to “cross the aisle.”   I am suuuuuuure there are plenty of Democrat politicians out there ready to shrink the government, protect our 2nd Amendment rights and stop the government subsidy of baby-butchering. LOADS.*

“I think for this op­por­tun­ity that we now have at the na­tion­al level, we have to be very meas­ured and very meth­od­ic­al in the way that we im­ple­ment a re­form agenda,” he ad­ded.

And Tillis said his role as speak­er gave him ex­per­i­ence tak­ing on his own party—something he plans to do more of as Re­pub­lic­ans as­sume total con­trol of Wash­ing­ton next year. In the state House, Tillis passed an agenda that in­cluded tort re­form, an­ti­abor­tion meas­ures, and a con­sti­tu­tion­al amend­ment to ban gay mar­riage—is­sues he said angered as many Re­pub­lic­ans as Demo­crats, be­cause his own party wanted to be even more ag­gress­ive.

“The people who would want us to go fur­ther on any one bill, they rep­res­ent the single greatest threat to us mak­ing pro­gress on the very sub­ject mat­ter,” said Tillis, cit­ing ex­amples of bills that have been ve­toed or thrown out in court.

How about using your position on the judiciary committee to weed out the ideologues who make law up off the top of their heads????

In the Sen­ate, he poin­ted to im­mig­ra­tion re­form as an is­sue he would push his party to be stra­tegic about. Shy of “am­nesty,” he said he’s open to pro­pos­als from either party for what to do with the mil­lions of people liv­ing in the coun­try il­leg­ally.

“It takes a cer­tain amount of push­back by those of us who are in­tent on mak­ing sure that we con­tin­ue to do free-mar­ket, lim­ited-gov­ern­ment, busi­ness-friendly policies and keep that in the fore­front,” said Tillis. “And you’ll take some cri­ti­cism for that.”

10 thoughts on “Thilli$$$: No more controver$$$y, plea$$$e. (I need to get PAID.)

  1. Tillis already has a voting record more liberal than Renee Ellmers. He clearly wants to go further left. Conservatives need to give him the same primary treatment we gave Renee. Send him packing.

    Issues that beat McCrory were in going too far LEFT, not right – the I-77 toll lane debacle, the attack on our Southern heritage, and embracing radical environmentalism against our commercial fishermen.

    That despicable POS Tillis is largely responsible for the I-77 debacle that cost McCrory enough votes that it cost him the election. It is outrageous that he is falsely blaming it on something that actually helped McCrory at the polls.

    Tillis wants to work with Kamala Harris? She is an extreme leftist that makes Bernie Sanders look sane.

    Tillis is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE in 2020. Tillis is as phony as a three dollar bill, and the traitor wants to sell us out on amnesty. With ”Republicans” like Tillis, who needs Democrats? Tillis votes more often Bernie Sanders than he does with Ted Cruz. That just cannot be tolerated. Tillis has to go.

  2. Pasted from the article:

    “The elect­or­ate of North Car­o­lina really is a mi­cro­cosm of the U.S. elect­or­ate,” said Tillis. “It’s a barely right-of-cen­ter state. … When you wade too far in­to some of the more con­tro­ver­sial so­cial is­sues, then you be­gin to see an in­creas­ing amount of op­pos­i­tion.”

    In par­tic­u­lar, Tillis ref­er­enced the state’s con­tro­ver­sial “bath­room bill,” which sought to reg­u­late which re­strooms trans­gendered people can use. The is­sue drew na­tion­al cri­ti­cism and cost Re­pub­lic­ans the gov­ernor­ship, even as the state voted de­cis­ively for Don­ald Trump.

    “We had the fast­est-grow­ing state eco­nomy in the U.S, we were in the fourth quart­ile by just about every oth­er meas­ure when I took the gavel in 2011, … one of the most pop­u­lar places for busi­ness re­lo­ca­tion,” Tillis said of the state. “All that should have been the mes­sage and it wasn’t; it was over­shad­owed.”

    Whats wrong with this? He is absolutely right. HB2 may have kept McCrory some of the Republican vote in already red counties but it definitely hurt him. I keep hearing “oh HB2 wasn’t that bad because everyone else did fine”, well maybe in primarily Republican areas. In Durham for example McCrory lost about 10% of the vote when looking at 2012 and 2016. He went from 28% to 19% if my memory serves. No republican in the State GA so of course no one to compare him to there but the independents spoke and it cost him votes. NC has more registered democrats than any party, then independents and lastly registered republicans. As the State has grown we’ve turned more blue. We are truly a purple State. McCrory’s economic record is/was incredible and should have won him the election. 65% of voters say the number one issue is the economy. BUT people only care about the economy when its bad. McCrory had a good economy and so people began to care more about social issues. Insert a liberal media and HB2 and there is no doubt it hurt McCrory. Burr got about 100k votes more than McCrory (a lot from liberal urban areas) probably because he didnt touch HB2 and hes been around a while. Forest got 100k more than McCrory because he traveled hard, worked hard, and libs dont vote down ticket much, you’ll notice that the Lt. Gov. race had way less votes than POTUS and Gov. and US Senate. US Senate even had less total votes than Gov. and POTUS. McCrory lost because of “death by 1000 cuts” Hb2 took some, not supporting Trump hurt (Trump had 70k more votes than McCrory, had he supported him publicly sooner maybe he gets those and wins), estimated 17k illegals voted, had we had voter ID he would have won, the confederate license plate hurt, film and movie incentives issue hurt, if people remember from 2013 the abortion mess could have hurt, i77 toll road hurt, which is silly because he saved the State an estimated 100 million in tax payer money but leaving the implementation of the toll road in place. McCrory is socially moderate but pretty conservative fiscally and economically but the people did not care because there were so many mistakes. Lost due to the 1000 little things he did wrong. Weak CoS and tried to be too bipartisan with his cabinet picks and not going even deeper into the staff at agencies. I mean where do I even stop? I could name another 10 things that cost McCrory anywhere from 1000 to 10k votes. But back to the point, HB2 definitely cost him independent and crossover dems votes in blue areas that you dont see on first glance. He also lost a lot of votes with socially liberal republicans due to HB2 and young sports fans. People who have never voted before but Trump brings them to the polls and they ear that McCrory took away their football and basketball games so they skipped him. They have no party preference just first time pick a name voters. Out east the NC GOP mess hurt. I’ll stop but could keep going.

    Here comes the Haymakers double standard. From article:

    “I’m here to find those people who are genu­inely in­ter­ested in solv­ing prob­lems,” said Tillis, who reg­u­larly re­quests get-to-know-you meet­ings with mem­bers of both parties.

    What is wrong with this? I see no issue in talking with other elected officials and trying to influence positive change. Walter Jones, who is almost never criticized here and often praised. He works across the isle often and was even on C-Span the other day with a democratic congressman from California. They are working on a lawsuit together. So my point is what is wrong with Republicans teaming up with Democrats. As long as they don’t compromise their values and forget who elected them, I have no problem with them or Sen. Tillis meeting with the other party to talk. It may even lead to a great solution for the American people that is a bi-partisan effort.

    My personal opinion is that Sen. Tillis could vote more republican on issues but there is always an untold story and add on to a certain bill. You never know why someone votes for something or against something. Not all bills are black and white. For example, recently the Continuing resolution to prevent Government shut down. Just pass it, keep it going for 10 weeks and be done with it. Trump is coming in, no need to pick a fight when you can win the bigger battle in 10 weeks with Trump and company. I use this example because American Heritage knocked him for this when, yes he did not vote like a true conservative, but does it matter? With that said, the American people (and North Carolinians) have spoken, hard right. 4th time ever we’ve had all the branches of Government at the Federal level I believe. We need strong, far right, conservative agendas being passed these next two years. Now is the time to say “forget politics and bi-partisan efforts, we are in control and can really influence change” and if they can do that then they will not have anything to worry about in 2018, or for Tillis and Trump, 2020.

    From article:

    “This idea of these states like a North Car­o­lina that are purple states destined to be blue, I think may be work­ing on an as­sump­tion that doesn’t have to be true,” Tillis said. He lis­ted strong na­tion­al de­fense, lim­ited gov­ern­ment, and even Second Amend­ment and an­ti­abor­tion meas­ures as policies the party can move for­ward on if it does so care­fully, and with al­lies from across the aisle.

    Whats wrong with these ideas and policies? Tillis believes NC does not have to be blue or even purple. He is for the 2nd amendment and anti-abortion. A strong National defense and limited Government. All 4 ideas are very conservative and liberals hate all 4, most of the time.

    “It takes a cer­tain amount of push­back by those of us who are in­tent on mak­ing sure that we con­tin­ue to do free-mar­ket, lim­ited-gov­ern­ment, busi­ness-friendly policies and keep that in the fore­front,” said Tillis. “And you’ll take some cri­ti­cism for that.”

    Well here is some push back. I guess I just dont understand why Tillis takes so much heat on this site. He can never do good and will never make anyone here happy it seems, which is sad. In 2020 he will rerun and no doubt be better than anyone the Democrats nominate and a lot of people here will leave it blank and risk us getting someone like D. Ross or equally bad. Tillis is pro business, pro guns, pro vets, for lower taxes and smaller Government. All sounds great to me.

    I will say American Heritage ranks Tillis pretty poorly and that is certainly disappointing, Maybe his score goes up, maybe not but I’ll take Tiliis at 50% (and it may go up) over some D at 10% or lower.

    I am strongly against RINOs but I dont put Tillis in that category (yet) but maybe someone here can explain to me why they disagree?

    My numbers could be a little off but should be close as I’ve checked recently and I am on mobile so forgive me if there are grammar errors and for such a long post.

    1. First of all, the bathroom bill prohibited people who are factually men from going into the restrooms and shower rooms with women and little girls. That includes the Anthony Weiners of the world as well as the mentally ill gender deniers who seem unable to peek between their own legs to figure out what they really are. It is repulsive when the far left media support that perversion, like the Charlotte Observer editorially proclaiming that schoolgirls would just have to get used to seeing penises in their showers. It is telling that the main leader behind the Charlotte bathroom ordinance was himself a convicted child molester. That says it all.

      It many areas of the state HB2 was a big plus for the GOP. My own state senator’s poll showed 70% of voters in our district supported the bathroom bill, and that is in a district that is only marginally Republican.

      Even in the suburbs of the big cities like Charlotte, HB2 was a non factor in the election. There is a good analysis in the second part of the linked article from the old House district of Thom Tillis himself that clearly shows that HB2 had no impact at all there:
      https://dailyhaymaker.com/?p=16617

  3. What kind of idiot suddenly wants to be ”bi-partisan” and ”reach across the aisle” when his own party has just taken the presidency and both houses of Congress for the first time in decades? Someone with a hidden agenda, that’s who.

    Tillis told another DC beltway publication that he ”might not come back” in 2020 if they did not do some bi-partisan things. Put all of this together, and it is clear that Tillis is more interested in serving K Street than in serving the voters of North Carolina. Tillis wants to be buddies with the Democrats as well as Republicans to position himself to get a high paid position himself on K Street come 2020.

    As usual with Tilli$, it is all about the green.

    1. why go into public office if you are not going to make bank….. oh yea long ago they were called statesman

  4. Hey, I was Governor Pat’s boy in this election, and before that I was Thommy’s boy for the Senate election. Look at the picture in the article, for example. I spent millions of Karl Rove’s money to get Thommy elected to the Senate. I did it – it was me.

    But if Thommy had just come to the last NCGOPe Executive Committee meeting, and heard my power point presentation and comments to the committee, he would have seen that HB2, the bathroom bill, had nothing to do with Governor Pat’s loss. I wish Thommy would start listening to us establishment dudes in NC instead of the Washington beltway media. This is one of those times that we GOPe establishment dudes and those conservatives see it the same way; that HB2 was not the reason Governor Pat lost.

    Thommy, please call NCGOPe HQ and ask for a copy of that power point presentation. You might learn something.

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