#ncga Moles: Moore, Lewis teaming with Dems on BIG HB2 sellout
In December, Tim Moore had to promise his caucus that NO HB2 repeal legislation would make it to the House floor without majority approval within the House Republican Caucus. In February, Moore had to convince his caucus that he was not working on a back-door sellout on HB2 with the Democrats.
Well, some closed-door shenanigans at the legislature today have quite a few people calling B.S. on Speaker Timmy.
Word began circulating early today that a House Republican caucus meeting had been called. My sources tell me that, when members began showing up at the meeting room, they found folks with lists guarding the door to the meeting room. 
“They were checking the lists, and if your name was not on the list, you were not getting in the room,” one source on the scene told me. “I saw at least one member of House leadership blocked from entering the meeting room. That got me wondering: ‘What kind of caucus meeting is this that bars a member of leadership from attending?’ ”
A little bit of investigation by THAT source, and three others, uncovered that Rules Committee chairman David Lewis was running the closed-door meeting. Sources who had been in the room told ME and my on-site sources that Lewis was in the room twisting arms and trying t
o line up enough Republican votes to team up with the Democrats and overturn HB2.
Word of this development began spreading across Jones Street like wildfire. One of my sources fumed:
“This is Tiny Tim at his sneakiest. He’s told us time and again he’s not going to pull the rug out from under us on HB2. Yet, here David Lewis is twisting arms to overturn HB2. Anybody who knows how this place works knows that Lewis doesn’t do anything without the speaker’s knowledge and blessing, and vice-versa.”
An awful lot of people expended a lot of political capital getting this bill passed. Some people lost races. How do you reconcile rhetoric from last year proclaiming the importance of this legislation with 2017 efforts to kill it?
Dan Forest just got back from Texas extolling his and the NCGOP’s leadership in passing HB2. And here we have his very own troops trying to kill it.
“Lewis and Moore are primarily motivated by cash,” said one of my on-site sources. “They view being up here as a money-making venture. I don’t believe this is motivated by someone threatening to cut off the cash. I think there’s someone behind the scenes offering to dump even more cash on them if they kill this law.”
HB 2 should remain with adjustments for the safety of all.
A traitor in our own midst is worse than a Democrat. Conservatives voters should go balls to the wall to eliminate every Benedict Arnold scumbag who sells out to the Gaystapo Republicans. Primary them, and if they survive the primary, then abandon them in the general election. A majority itself is of no value whatsoever if it depends on a 5th column within which is prone to sell out to the extreme left. It is better to blow up the rotten structure and rebuild on a firm foundation.
There are two strains of Obama Republicans in this session, One is the Gaystapo Republicans who want to build Obama’s Transgender legacy by repealing HB2 and the other is the Solyndra Republicans who want to honor Obama’s Renewable Energy legacy. Any legislator who is both a Solyndra Republican and a Gaystapo Republican is a total phony who is a Democrat in Drag. They should be the top targets to remove from the legislature. No holds barred. Throw the rascals out.
We need a state gop chairman that will call a executive committee meeting so the committee can vote on measures to publicly rebuke theese D’s in R’s clothing. To protect the party the party must condeem F rated Republicans in all levels of goverment
Grassroots Republicans can also make their voices heard at the convention in Wilmington, Resolutions and the platform are one way, but another is to boo any legislator associated with a sellout on HB2 off of the stage. Moore would be a prime target if he does as is suggested above,
.If Moore teams with the Democrats to sell out Republican principles, then he will be the new Richard Morgan, and Moore and his cronies will need to same treatment in the primaries that Morgan and his cronies were given.
This is a third rail issue. Any Republican dumb enough to grab hold of it will be toast.
too many Repubs are not willing to do their homework. But I agree that we must purge our party – or abandon it to the DEMS.
I want safety for females, children. Keep HB2.
Olynda, Do you truly want safety – Take a concealed carry course and buy gun/ learn to shoot. Kinda kidding.
Conservatives are still trying to use ROBERTS RULES TO MAKE THE INSIDER CONTROLLED republican party viable. It’s almost humorous to watch people who don’t understand what it means to be an individualist as they play with the fantasy of building anything constructive through committees and the like.
I wonder if any of these guys have thought of the practical political implications?. The last election was a presidential cycle with high turnouts. The next one will be the lowest turnout cycle of all, not only with no presidential race but also no major statewide races. These ultra low turnout cycles like 2018 happen once every eight years.
In a high turnout cycle, voters who come out for the top of the ticket vote on name recognition down ballot, benefitting incumbents at those levels. Also it is easier to use money to sway voters who are not so focused on down ballot races. Issue-oriented voters who pay attention to the issues and the candidates are a much smaller segment of the electorate.
In a low turnout cycle, like 2018 will be, issue oriented voters are a much bigger portion of the electorate and there are many fewer of the less informed voters. It is much much harder to get away with a bad voting record with a much smaller and better informed electorate. Screwing up on a major high profile issue that upsets base voters can easily lose a primary, and there is much less money can do to fix it. With the electorate of an off-off year election like the one coming up, it is far more difficult to buy a victory.
Do these guys really want all the value voters, Christians, etc, at DEFCOM ONE with them next election? With the high profile of this issue, that is exactly what they will have if they kill HB2 or disable it.
Then there is the general election, also a very low turnout affair in this cycle. With no likely competitive Congressional races, and the legislature the highest profile competitive race, do they want to cause a lot of the GOP base to be so disgusted as to stay home? What values voter is going to bother to come out to support someone in the general election who has just royally disappointed them on a major issue they care a lot about?
Killing HB2 is a particularly bad move when 16 states are now following NC’s lead on protecting women and girls. This would be kicking conservatives in the gut nationally. It is an attempt by liberals to kill the issue nationally at its source.
HB2 is also NOT hurting North Carolina economically as the Washington Times has just reported:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/20/with-bathroom-bill-north-carolina-economy-expandin/
In fact, our economy is expanding nicely with HB2 in place.