Burr, Tillis jump onboard gun control bandwagon
Once again, we have prominent North Carolina Republicans helping leftists pass pieces of their agenda:
Senate bargainers announced a bipartisan framework Sunday responding to last month’s mass shootings, a noteworthy though limited breakthrough offering modest gun curbs and bolstered efforts to improve school safety and mental health programs. The proposal falls far short of tougher steps long sought by President Joe Biden and many Democrats. Even so, the accord was embraced by Biden and enactment would signal a significant turnabout after years of gun massacres that have yielded little but stalemate in Congress. Leaders hope to push any agreement into law rapidly — they hope this month — before the political momentum fades that has been stirred by the recent mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas.
Participants cautioned that final details and legislative language remain to be completed, meaning fresh disputes and delays might emerge. North Carolina’s Republican senators, Thom Tillis and Richard Burr, were among 20 senators, including 10 Republicans, who released a statement calling for passage. That is potentially crucial because the biggest obstacle to enacting the measure is probably in the 50-50 Senate, where at least 10 GOP votes will be needed to attain the usual 60-vote threshold for approval. “Families are scared, and it is our duty to come together and get something done that will help restore their sense of safety and security in their communities,” the lawmakers said.
The group, led by Sens. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., John Cornyn, R-Texas, Krysten Sinema, D-Ariz., and North Carolina’s Tillis produced the agreement after two weeks of closed-door talks.
WHAT THE AGREEMENT WOULD DO ON GUNS
The compromise would make the juvenile records of gun buyers under age 21 available when they undergo background checks.[…]
So, if those records do become public, how do you determine what makes someone TOO DANGEROUS to purchase a gun?
Plenty of people have run-ins with the law as kids, but are good citizens throughout adulthood.
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[…] The suspects who killed 10 Black people at a grocery store in Buffalo and 19 students and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde were both 18, and many perpetrators of recent years’ mass shootings have been young.
The agreement would offer money to states to enact and put in place “red flag” laws that make it easier to temporarily take guns from people considered potentially violent, plus funds to bolster school safety and mental health programs.[…]
Who gets to decide IF your guns get seized? What specific criteria make you eligible for having your guns seized? Everybody has the “potential” to get violent. It’s not illegal to seek mental health care or take psychiatric medicine (with a prescription). Lots of people do that and never go on shooting sprees. Measures like this could discourage people who need mental health care from seeking it. Who wants to get branded a potential threat because you are addressing a health problem?
Seizing guns, eh? This certainly sets the table for crooked state or local pols to snatch your guns if you have political affiliations they don’t like.
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[…] Some people who informally sell guns for profit would be required to obtain federal dealers’ licenses, which means they would have to conduct background checks of buyers.
Like the guys who sell guns from the trunks of their cars, or from their garage or “back room”? *Yeah, I’m sure they’ll follow Thom and Dick’s new regs to the Tee.*
This garbage will further hassle law-abiding folks trying to exercise their Second Amendment rights. People who get the idea in their head to shoot up a location couldn’t give a rip about Thom and Dick’s gun control bill.
What about “gun -free zones”? All of these mass shooting sites had those stupid signs posted. The only person armed was the scumbag killer.
I love how these people keep mentioning 21 dead in Uvalde and 10 dead in Buffalo. Twenty-one dead? That figure easily gets surpassed on a “good” Friday night in Chicago, Detroit, New York, or DC. Those don’t get mentioned. Attention to those facts would raise too many uncomfortable questions and points about certain constituencies that statists depend on for election and reelection. There will be no discussion or enactment of a plan to fix the violence problem in the aforementioned big cities.
Feeling screwed over yet? *It’s always pleasant to have these people claim they’ll go to DC to “fight the liberal agenda,” but end up helping to get it passed.*
These people are getting way too close to stomping out our God-given rights listed in our Founding Documents.
The details of this bill will be a lot worse than this outline. That is certain. These idiots selling out to Democrats may succeed in destroying the red wave.
We should not forget that Tillis is also in one of those “bi-partisan” “gangs” working on a sell-out on illegal immigration and amnesty. Tillis has sold us out on issue after issue. He seems to want to be to the left of Terry Sanford. I could not hold my nose enough to vote for this phony in 2024. We simply have to get someone different in the primary.
Conservative journalist M. Stanton Evans once said that there were two parties, the evil party and the stupid party, but sometimes they did something that was both stupid and evil, and that was called “bi-partisan”.
Our 2 RINO senators are both ignoring our 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms…Is the same MYSTERY MAN that called for ” THE STOPPAGE OF COUNTING BALLOTS” on election night 2020….going to be the same MYSTERY MAN that decides that you are mentally unfit to own a gun ? Vote Thillis out next time FOR REAL ! !
Great post. These two posers Burr and Tillis have always been shady crooks. Unreliable sellouts.
We need to start talking about a viable conservative alternative who can beat Tillis in 2024. My thought is Dale Folwell.
North Carolina Republicans had viable conservative alternatives to both Burr in 2016 and Tillis in 2020. They chose not to vote for them in the primaries.
To be viable, a challenger needs to have the resources – money, manpower, or both – to get their message before the voters. The one challenger in 2020 who had the resources folded tent when Trump (probably pressured by McConnell) endorsed Tillis. While I appreciate the underfunded challengers who come forward and bravely make a statement and give those of us who know who they are someone we can vote for, the reality is that unless such challengers get their message out to the broad masses, then their chances are slim and none.
That is why I think we need to be having a conversation NOW about recruiting a challenger to Tillis in 2024. That will give time to hopefully get their name out and build up some resources.
Mark Walker missed the boat in not challenging Tillis in the 2020 primary. He had the name recognition and resources to make a mark, and if he did not beat Tillis he would have set himself up as frontrunner for 2022. He toyed with it, but then made a stupid decision not to move forward. That blunder is one of the reasons I was not too fond of his 2022 candidacy.
Hate to tell you this, but we’re stuck with Tillis until 2026. He was re-elected in 2020.
Although they lie and practice disingenuous rhetoric, Tillis and Burr are members of the democrat party…Don’t believe me look at their votes and their rubber stamping of cabinet positions. They are always for things and never against anything. If you believe the Republican Party on a national or state level will do a thing to appease the conservative base you are insane. I would love to hear from the people who post here about how we need to send them back to have a majority in the senate. If the RINOS were in control not one thing would be different.
Why is anyone surprised at these two RINOs? No doubt they are both secret admirers of Liz Cheney as well. NC Republican voters have only themselves to blame for these two fakes representing us.
I deeply regret not voting for the Democrat in 2020. I wussed out and voted for the Constitution Party candidate. President Reagan’s 80% rule failed to rationalize what the 20% actually was or is. Sen. Tillis might have a better standing if he actually followed through with constituent services or took the time to actually meet people like us. Lived in NC for 15 years always had at least one R Senator that I never met or corresponded with. No different from NJ. At least in NJ I knew how they were going to vote and I was not expected to vote for them. Hopefully it will change with Ted Budd.
Burr is a non factor. Never seen a more wasted seat. Tillis is a turncoat , who cannot be trusted. Senator Helms wrote the book on constituent service. He didnt care what party you were , if you were from North Carolina and needed help … he was there for you. Burr and Tillis are awful. I’ll never be fooled by Tillis again.
The good news is that you actually do get to vote against Tillis in 2024 since he’s running for governor.