The NCGOP exodus begins, and the improper voting affidavits flow in
I’ve seen a handful of resignations from longtime local-level party activists in the wake of Saturday’s travesty in Greensboro. I’m told there are dozens and dozens of more to follow.
I’ve always been a fan of dissenting from within. But I can understand the frustration: Why keep devoting your time, talent, and hard-earned money to an organization dominated by people who sneer at you and dismiss you as “fringe” for simply adhering to the organization’s rules and governing documents?
Leaving, I believe, is exactly what these low-lifes want you to do. They care only about things that fatten their wallets and benefit them and their friends. They want to be answering the phone when Raleigh or DC come calling. *Your passions, your for-the-common good tripe doesn’t even make it onto their radar.*
Anyway, here’s a good example of a party worker bee for whom Saturday was the last straw:
To the Buncombe GOP leadership:I resign as Precinct 32.1 chair.The final straw manifested itself in the debacle I witnessed at the NCGOP convention. While I appreciated debating the rules and resolutions, I was VERY disappointed in the election process for chairmanship.As such, I have no confidence in the NCGOP leadership. Leaders take responsibility and I have heard nothing from the leadership to own the chaos. Transparency and ownership were and are severely lacking.I make my decision not on this alone. Mr. Kane eloquently described a significant problem—our party no longer represents its brand. We put forth candidates who say the “right” things, but compromise after elected. They are not transparent and equivocate to justify their actions. Thus, I cannot confidently support candidates the GOP advocates. Nor do I trust the GOP to wisely invest the resources I contribute to support various races.Thus, I will no longer contribute time or funds to the GOP. Instead, I will invest in candidates and causes that match my beliefs and values.I am a conservative. Thus, I view the government’s role as one to protect and defend the constitution; to protect individual rights and provide security to our citizens. The myriad of programs established to “help” people belong to non-government entities. Unfortunately, Republican efforts to quell the spending and reel in government oversight/control is non-existent. In fact, Republicans have become just as egregious as Democrats in superfluous spending. On top of that, the GOP incumbents demonstrate they value re-election and PAC interests much more than their constituents. As such, my voting strategy will remain vote out the incumbent until I witness an individual take the “high ground” regardless of what it may cost.In the past, I have avoided endorsing specific candidates because of my role as Precinct Chair. In addition, I’ve provided my precinct members an objective voting guide, highlighting the candidates’ positions on the issues. I’ve also relied on the GOP to invest in electable candidates. In the future, I plan to provide the voting guide with recommendations and only contribute directly to campaigns that agree with my values. These may be contrary to the GOP, but the party has demonstrated they are either incongruous with me or incompetent.I know my decisions noted above, nor this letter will impact the GOP in the near future. However, I look forward to a day when there is a reawakening within the party. At such time, I will come running back to support its efforts. In the meantime, I pray those in the GOP with conviction to get “back to basics” well in their efforts. May they not tire and be encouraged with the small victories.Warm regards,Ken Orban
I witnessed the departure of the Liberty Caucus. I do not wish to see anymore leave.
I agree this is what they want.
My Delegation saw it and understood when I said it’s 4 days a year… county , state (when they allow it) and 2 days at State Convention…We press through. We won on Censure. It’s doable.
Yeah. They want the exodus to happen. Why do people accommodate them? It’s a lazy, cowardly thing to do.
2-sides…BUT, seems winning doesn’t occur much, huh?
Fight and fight and lose and lose…after while, it’s deflating.
WHAT is the worst, KNOWING it wasn’t fair, decent or legal…..BUT…that doesn’t stop politicians or the govt….does it?
I don’t like losing either. If I run home and hide, I surely lose. If I lose every battle except the last one that wins the war, I win. With patience and persistence there is at least hope. If there is hope, there is at least a chance. If I surrender, there is no hope.
I don’t expect fairness when dealing with unscrupulous people. On any field of battle, it pays to know your enemy. Ours is a ruthless, unprincipled opponent that will do anything to accomplish their goals (their ends justify their means). That’s just what it is.
I’m not saying working in the party is the only field of battle, but if you want ballot access it is best to stay. Also, if people do decide to stay in the party, you’re really needed for those 4 days a year and if possible 2 days at the State Convention. I’ve seen that much commitment make the crucial difference.
It takes a lot of lights to defeat darkness.
“BUT…that doesn’t stop politicians or the govt. …does it?”
No, it sure doesn’t. Fair decent and legal aren’t priorities to evil entities. The uniparty is evil. Much of the leadership in our party, at all levels, is evil. Talk to people in other counties. A lot of us are dealing with the same things. I’m seeing this bumper sticker in one of our eastern counties: “HONEST MEN ARE DANGEROUS” You know what? Honest men and women ARE dangerous to evil.
Post crooked convention thoughts: Don’t leave the party. Stick around to aggravate and deter the despicable folks that have infiltrated our party. DO NOT give the party money. Give to trusted reliable individual campaigns. Anyway, that’s my plan.
Every single person is needed if we have any chance in 2024. NC GOP needs to understand this. If it takes some humility, then suck it up. I read II Chronicles 7:14 at the DCOA meeting and my prayer is we begin to let humility lead our actions. It is NOT easy. I had to apologize to some people and try to make some ammends this weekend… but you know what….I do NOT regret it one bit….at the end of the day, I want to elect great Conservatives in 2024 and am willing to do all I can.
I’ve had people contact me in the past couple days and say that they couldn’t believe they had seen me communicating with xxxxx…My response is that we are all Republicans and we all have the same goal.
Same goal? I seriously doubt that. You want us to be the same uncomplaining saps that bend over to make sure the likes of Whatley and Tillis are living the high life on the Georgetown wine and cheese party circuit. They’re not conservatives so try selling that bilge elsewhere.
Sir,
Apparently, you do not know me very well. Let me rephrase….Our goal SHOULD be to elect conservative Republicans!! I do not fit on either side. I am tired of the fighting, but will do it if needed. In full disclosure, I voted for Kane. I liked what he said and the main point I agreed on was that there must be focus on staffing election judges. I have been saying that for years.. Chairman Whatley is a nice man. He has always been respectful to me and I try to do the same, He and I disagree all the time. In fact, anyone that knows me at all knows that I am not afraid to speak up in disagreement. Communication is key. that said, I am not going to treat others disrepectfully or say ugly things to them because we disagree.
Staffing of poll judges is the responsibility of the county parties not the state. Same with poll observers.
Thank you!
Saturday was a revelation of “We The People” who stand strong for the ‘Republican Party Platform’. It isn’t for We The People to protect a private organization from self destruction. As citizens and voters we are still Constitutional Conservatives, nothing changed. Maybe the PARTY will learn something from Saturday.
I’ve asked Michael Whatley one on one to add a Grassroots Team to the Party, of
course it went on closed ears. Accordingly, my prayers were answered. God exposed everything; the good, the bad and the ugly. In my leadership role with LIBERTY FIRST GRASSROOTS, our first goal is to register as Republicans by 31st of January and participate in the process. Respecting people that give time and hard earned money to fight for their freedoms is number one on the list of adding value to others. We are training up the new REPUBLICANS. Upholding Freedom, Sue Butcher. We Stand With John Kane.
Just saw this LFG mindset needs to infiltrate party however it hasn’t happened that way. Jim Womack and John Kane were the right leaders and both and their loses were certainly questionable but without an audit that was denied no way to say who won. How was the election on Saturday June 10 any different from what we saw in the battleground states 2020. Do the audit then we will be confident in the results.
Full agreement, Marvin.
Well stated, Sue.
Based on a few interactions with each, I favored Kane for several reasons, including his strong stances on election repair & protecting pre-born babies.
If not for a family commitment, I would’ve been there to vote for him (and hope that my vote counted).
There is too much at stake to call it quits. I really wish Mr. Whatley would show some leadership after this fiasco and directly address the concerns. All I hear is crickets. Also Mr. Whatley I assume you read this – As a software developer I have some suggestions for eliminating the major concerns with electronic voting if this will be used again. #1 – Every delegate should be “checked in” to the convention floor session when a vote is to be taken. Set up scanning at the convention floor entrances like you did for the paid events. Modify the app so only checked-in delegates present on the convention floor can vote. #2 Modify the app to display the delegate’s voting history. #3 – make Wifi hotspots or cell repeaters available on the convention floor. – many of the technical issues in using the app were caused by connection/bandwidth issues. #4 – have the app send the delegate’s voting history to the “email address of record” for the particular delegate to their email immediately after the vote and even perhaps the county vote totals and the convention totals. #5 Develop a better report that can be displayed on the video screens. A live real-time display of vote totals while voting is happening would be my first suggestion. My second would be a better cross-tab report of votes by county including columns for the delegates “checked-in” vs the number of votes cast. Mr. Whately if you are going to restore the integrity of the vote in our convention you need to address this ASAP.
I don’t think this was a wi-fi issue since I know several people that were only on their cell phone carrier network and voted. I believe it was a server issue, not bandwidth. I also know a guest (with proof) that could have voted with the application. Personally I had issues with the application not giving me the candidates to vote for. I even logged out and logged into another delegates phone with my email and password that successfully voted and had the same “no candidates to vote for” issue. I finally went to the kiosk and voted, my cell phone app said I voted after that.
Why can’t we vote by roll call of those that were in attendance. Just like Congress. I have 35 years in information technology and there is NO secure way to use it UNLESS you make everyone’s vote transparent. Since the NCGOP is small roll call would be appropriate.
“The Old Republican Party is dead,” said Missouri Senator Josh Hawley. He said its not a time for mourning because a party that represents the true cultural backbone of this nation is being forged. Across the nation, entire GOP leadership teams are resigning!! I believe this is what we are seeing in North Carolina. As an informed GOP voter, I hope this is the beginning of a GOP reformation that truly represents the working class. I’m all in, and there are many of us out here!
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It’s fascinating to me that anyone is surprised by these latest events in the NCGOP leadership. When I served on the board of the Global Transpark 15 years ago, at then Speaker Tillis’ request, I got an insight into party machinations that turned my stomach. When the Tillis camp torpedoed the real conservatives in the latter’s effort to end our horrible renewable energy quotas, I had enough and turned into a happy UNA. I’ve found ways to advance conservative causes outside politics, with a far greater ROI. Education freedom, apprenticeship programs, and promoting Austrian Economics with the Mises Institute.
It has gotten even worse with the RINO sell out to the green energy grifters and “woke” Duke Energy. Look at HB951 from last session. It is North Carolina’s Green New Deal, even more radical than the EU’s Green Deal. It was rammed through by RINO legislative “leaders” Phil Berger and Tim Moore, who acted like AOC without the skirt or perhaps Greta Thunberg.
In Europe, voters are furious about the skyrocketing electric rates due to the Green Deal. One consequence is that a recent poll by Politico shows the Greens losing at least half their seats in the EU parliament in the 2024 EU election. What will HB951 do to NC Republicans once voters figure out what Berger and Moore have done to us?
All of this just cried out for John Kane’s efforts to hold our elected officials feet to the fire on the platform. Sadly, Whatley, who is a Tillis functionary, will do nothing on that.
While they both got less votes, note not saying the lost, Trump with 72 million and Kane With about 700 votes.
It must be stated that 700 people voted against Whatley.
700 people is not a number that you can sweep under the rug.
I am going to go on record yet again and say that in 2021 this started for me the downward spiral of seeing what the NCGOP truly was about. However, never in my wildest dreams did I expect to see blatant deception and morally corruptness without any accountability to be had. Some of my biggest concerns that I have raised and even asked Whatley directly and have it on video were that he was selected by the RNC to be head of election integrity and go from state to state to put forth the so-called efforts as seen in NC. I ALMOST FELL off my recliner AS I was watching live feeds coming from the convention floor of the catastrophic failures of election integrity in 2023 happening…and this is what some of the NCGOP believes is legitimate election integrity? Some of the people wanted this to go state to state and represent the RNC and GOP from NC as head of anything? He can’t much less get the crap straight in our own state much less go out of state and represent Republicans with a straight face and not tell bold face lies. Secondly, to go and face to face tell REPUBLICAN VOTERS to donate money to the GOP/RNC when they can’t even produce an audit for our own state that doesn’t have RED FLAGS FROM START TO FINISH???? I mean hells bells people…stop looking at what Whatley is hand feeding you all as garbage indoctrinated BS and look at it for yourselves it is available online. If you or I had not submitted those documents to the state tax wise correctly, do you think we would not have been having IRS breathing down our necks? This is supposed to be a non-profit organization and yet the pay they are giving out to the employees is over $3 million and well when they have bonuses ranging from over $750.00 to $7500. in December some of them…for what? Sending out emails? Let me put this in perspective for you. If you all thought what happened in 2020 was bad, and 81 million voters were told yeah Donald J. Trump didn’t have the election stolen…get over it as one person said today in a post move on…well how about looking those 81 million in the eye now and telling them hey you have the head of election integrity that in his own state convention just committed election fraud to win his convention, hasn’t been able to complete an audit on their financial books and wants you to trust in his system of election integrity and donate to his party…what about that? YEAH, LET’S TRUST THAT GUY!!!!! You all just shot yourselves in the foot and backside! It wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see half of that group that is supporting this Whatley leadership to be ok with Trump being arrested, him being replaced with Desantis and well let’s all just go along to get along, sing kumbaya and ring around the Rosie oh no wait a minute I forgot the new motto for County Chairs is to tell the members that don’t agree is “sit down, shut up, you have no right to say anything that is considered retaliatory, or instigating.” We don’t want to hear it”. You must sign up to speak at your county meetings if we have one at all and you will be allowed 3 minutes or less to do it. This whole new “GOP Theme” is not going to sit well with the GRASSROOTS CONSERVATIVES that the Establishment Reapers are trying to push, just an FYI.