The fix is IN: NCGOPe “supports” election integrity (just not in intra-party votes)
This weekend’s vote for NCGOP state chairman has been looking like quite the nail-biter. Yet, establishment types in the current party leadership today managed to give incumbent Michael Whatley a bit of wiggle-room.
Employing what observers described as a “run-out-the-clock” strategy, party leaders approved rules for the convention which require voting for the party chairman to only be conducted via a smart phone app.
There will be no paper trail — like many election integrity activists have been seeking for votes inside and outside the party.
There have been no specifics on what happens if the app crashes. Security concerns have been dismissed. Sources familiar with the app say no one can vote who does not have a login and password — which can only be obtained from officials at the convention.
There were no clear answers as to how to prevent off-site voting. Nor were there reassuring answers about whether on-site or off-site people could use the app to cast multiple votes.
WHY NOT allow for paper ballots and a paper trail if one is so SURE that the party as a whole endorses the idea of MORE Whatley? Answer: Because they know that is not the case. Changing up to this high-tech method can allow for ensuring that the final tally reflects certain parties’ desired result.
It’s not over. But the evil empire has made the party-saving job a little tougher. If the party is really important to you, fight tooth and nail to ensure there is plenty of integrity in all of its operations.
TAKE A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR VOTE AND HOLD ON TO IT.
To make matters worse, the word is that this electronic voting app was developed by a political consultant with ties to the Whatley regime, and that it has never previously been used. This is a huge concern about the integrity of the count. The official information provided about the specifics of who is behind the app are virtually non existant. There is less transparency than with even Dominion. The convention was told it was selected by party staff, who are under Whatley, and only that they selected the “best” one.
This travestry only prevailed due to heavy handed top-down anti-grassroots rules that required a 2/3rds vote to ditch this potentially corrupt system.
If one wants to rig a vote, this is certainly a way to do it.
You can literally sit in the bar area and vote. Or better yet, have your buddies text you when to vote and you can be fishing and still vote!
If you ever believed Whatley cares about election integrity, he’s literally rubbing it in your face that he does not.
He’s rigged enough county conventions in prep for this one, who’s surprised.
This is being done so the Tillis-Whatley minority can steal the election. Pure and simple.
At most political conventions, the one that controls the microphone, controls the outcome. Remember that the next time someone tells you in order to get representatives to begin respecting the Constitution, you have to first let them change the Constitution.
In politics, if it happened, you can bet it was planned.
– Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Gee, Mr. Whatley, what could possibly go wrong with this convoluted mess? If you had an ounce of integrity and respect for NC Republicans, you’d use paper ballots instead of this “Hail Mary” somebody on your team cooked up!
An acquaintance of mine who is a past County Chairman and member of the NCGOP Rules Committee, has fruitlessly fought electronic voting in state conventions because he said that he simply couldn’t convince the Rules committee Chairman and fellow members that the integrity of the vote could not be assured. Given the corruption that has only increased in the NCGOP since the 2010 elections and the 2016 ouster of Chairman Harnett, I’d have to agree, one cannot assume that electronic voting will not be abused.
Whatley’s “team” is attempting to buy votes by handing out Chik-Fil-A biscuits, water bottles, & cookies with “Whatley” stickers conveniently attached.
If you are at the convention (I am), or know someone who is, PLEASE encourage any voting delegates to vote for John Kane. We’re also encouraging voters to use the kiosks instead of the phone app. We’re doing this in protest for Election Security.
As the speaker who presented the Amendment calling for paper ballots in the election of Chairman and Vice Chair, read by the Convention Chair without verbiage from me regarding that “the County Chairs maintain the ballot integrity” but resolved by an amendment to my Amedment which solved that problem. My action was to preserve party unity and transparency in the election of our leadership. I believe the Convention Chair ERRED in his ruling that a 2/3 vote was required to approve my amended amendment as I believe we were then still operating under our 2022 Rules which called for a majority to approve, the error being the difference between 50% plus 1 or 2/3. In my mind the effort was a valiant one, the resolution in error and I rest my case.
It was confirmed that the electronic voting system used at the convention was developed by a consultant tied to the NCGOP establishment and had never been used anywhere prior to the convention. It flopped big time, and violated important parts of the NCGOP Plan of Organization. It recorded how each delegate voted in violation of the PoO provisions calling for a secret ballot. Even worse, it violated the provisions of the PoO requiring delegates to be on the convention floor to cast a ballot. It was reported, with screen shots of people in Florida and Wisconsin casting votes for NCGOP chairman on the electronic voting app, as well as guests who were attending the convention and had to right to vote. So did delegates who had left the convention and were driving home. A number of counties showed more people voting that they actually had delegates and alternates on the floor, and some less. The voting system kept breaking down, whether it was people trying to do it on their cell phones or at kiosks on the convention floor.
Given the massive comedy of errors with this electronic voting system, it is highly questionable if the results it showed were even remotely close to being accurate. It is Dominion’s little brother and should never have been used at the convention. After the chaos with the vote for chairman, they lost a quorum before even reaching the vice chairman’s race.
Nobody who served on this Rules committee that screwed and embarassed the party with this hare-brained election system should EVER be reappointed to that committee.
Mark Edwards, the Chair of the Rules Commitee should resign immediately!!! That rule 5BA is HORRIBLE!!! It was brought into the rules in 2021, but that year it was voted down.
Special thanks to my favorite Eastern NC Republicans Carl Mischka and Steve Radnor, you two are wonderful patriots!!!!
I can’t believe Mark Edwards brought the Rule 5BA back again this year and it passed, but then again Whatley probably coached him to do so.
Aside from Edwards, was there even a Rules Committee this year? The names at the bottom of the 2023 Rules Report are listed as the 2022 Rules Committee. I happen to know that at least a few of those names had no role in this year’s convention or the rules committee work leading up to the convention.
Where was the uproar over this?? The grassroots Republicans, such as myself , were not told to call state headquarters to protest this; I would have taken action!! We need a stronger, unified, VOCAL front to get “America-First” patriots in leadership!!!
As anticipated, this turned into a fantastic mess with under votes and over votes for Chairman. The parliamentary noodle soup went on so long, the vice-chair position was not voted. The convention should have ended by 5:00 pm, but lasted until well after 7:00 pm. Several delegates left to attend an event they had paid to attend at 5:00 pm. Others just left in disgust. Others did not attend the evening dinner with President Trump. A delegate asked about refunds from the GOP for missed paid for events. The chairman consulted with GOP officials which relayed that refunds could be requested starting Monday, June 12 for missed events.. The election for is pending?
The “vote by cell phone” was a disaster. Several hundred attendees were required to vote at kiosks set up for such contingencies, further delaying the proceeds. It was reported that some delegates cast their votes for chairman outside the meeting hall. I predict paper ballots will be used in future GOP Party elections.
When the delegates were finally ready to vote for vice-chair, a delegate asked for a qu0rom count., which turned out to less than 50% of the registered delegates. A motion to adjourn was made and the remaining delegates voted to adjourn.
On top of this, the election for chairman has been contested and John Kane refused to concede the loss to Whatley. Hm…
Paper ballots is wishful thinking, people still voted by over 62% for Whatley even though the electronic voting was a disaster. What does that tell you! People are addicted to Whatley/Trump/NASCAR. I say NASCAR because before Whatley was chair, people actually respected the concept of party business and since Whatley became chair everyone has been in such a hurry!!!! It pains me to say this, but I miss Robin Hayes, he was so much better at conventions than Whatley. I had a ticket to the Trump Dinner tonight and was refused seating and got no food either!!!!
Oops! The election for vice chair is pending. 60 days, six month, two years, Who knows?
Congratulations, Mr. Whatley. Under your “leadership,” there is now not a dime’s worth of difference between the NCGOP and the democrat/communist party. Well done! (PS–don’t be surprised if there are a few thousand less registered Republicans in NC in the near future. You invited that with your tactics yesterday.)
There is no way the Top Brass will ever wash the stink off of Whatley’s reappointment.
Every observation I have read here is spot on.
My delegates were not detoured. They retrieved beer, came back and waited it out.
They knew it was one blown weekend. They are all committed to do it again.
This business of CenCom wagging the dog must end.
June 9th: A questionable situation. June 10th: A chaotic, insulting, unreliable, disrespectful, dishonorable day’s work, June11th: A party in shambles. I have no confidence in this.
I’ve been to a number of state party conventions. Some have been better than others; a real spectrum on the scale of good and bad. This is the worst one. Recoverable? I don’t know.
My first GOP Convention. Wow…disappointing. The pentacle of the weekend for me was supposed to be the vote for Chair & Vice-Chair. Horrible chain of events prevented the voting process from being an honest, honorable event. All integrity was was destroyed by electronic voting & no opportunity to vote on Vice-Chair. Mr. Whatley, if you set this in motion to steal this election, you’re no better than Katie Hobbs. This looked just like the same events that occurred in Arizona. We traveled a long distance & spent a lot of money only to end with an incomplete Convention. Shame on the NC GOP. Paper ballots, please.
Daimon of New Bern