NCGOPe watering down / censoring resolutions, protecting Tillis
The Whatley cabal is going to the mat to defend our senior US senator. More than half of the state’s county GOP organizations have censured Thom Tillis for his chronic betrayal of the GOP’s platform and base. In response, Whatley cancels district conventions to avoid giving the growing chorus of irate Tillis critics a platform.
Over the last several months, party leadership has pulled off parliamentary tricks to keep activists from voicing their criticisms of Tillis’ treachery and betrayal.
At a recent campaign stop in Alamance County, NCGOP chairman Michael Whatley could be heard saying – in response to a question about Tillis speaking at the state convention – “We don’t expect him to be there.”
I don’t think I’d show up either if I knew more then half the audience was itching to boo me off the stage and out of the meeting room.
We’ve obtained a copy of the report by the NCGOP’s “Resolutions Committee.”
You don’t have to read past the committee chairman’s report on the first page to determine what’s really going on here. The Whatley cabal is talking up the idea of minimizing “controversy” for the sake of party unity. In fact, they are softening the censure language, removing any mention of Tillis, and blowing off any incidents of actual disloyalty that may have already occurred.
Since WHEN has one man’s reputation been so much more important than the party’s reputation 
and future? Why is Tillis so damn important to these people? Under Dallas Woodhouse-Robin Hayes – Michael Whatley, the NCGOP has fallen into third place among registered North Carolina voters. I’d certainly say those are grounds for a shake-up. Not turning a blind eye to the repeated misdeeds of [a] certain chronic bad actor[s].
There is a “party disloyalty” resolution in the committee’s report. It’s pretty weak, and promises to give any future offenders a stern talking-to if anybody spots any party disloyalty in the foreseeable future.
Let’s practice a little democracy. Tillis needs to be discussed and dealt with. You can’t hide him from the party base forever. This routine of clearing the primary field for Tillis, and then telling general election voters “Hey, he’s better than a Democrat” isn’t going to work much more. Hopefully, he can be persuaded to man-up enough to face his accusers head-on and explain himself.
There are way too many people in party leadership who believe we need to tie ourselves up like pretzels to appeal to liberals and moderates and independents and puppies. Actually, we need a principled and credible message that unites our base and which can be sold to folks not yet in the conservative or Republican fold. Walking the walk AND talking the talk.
(The base has grown by leaps and bounds since the 1970s and 80s and 90s. You know, with those renowned squishy moderates like John East, Jesse Helms, and Lauch Faircloth.)
These people calling the shots from Raleigh and Charlotte are almost begging for a storming of the Bastille moment. Fundraising is lagging. So is registration. We went backwards in the congressional delegation. Our alleged “wave” in 2022 became a trickle. “Our folks” on Jones Street are being applauded by Governor Doofus for expanding Medicaid, of all things.
The Democrats had a revolt in their party. How much stumbling, bumbling, betrayal and outright lying must we continue to tolerate?
So interesting that Tillis came in person for Whatley’s announcement to run for NCGOP Chairman but isn’t man enough to attend the state convention to hear from his constituents.
Political resolutions are developed with input from county parties after review, debate & negotiation. As a result, resolution language may differ after the reconciliation process. The goal is to have a rigorous process to expedite decisions on the convention floor. Please understand that hard debates have
already been thoroughly considered in committee.
Oh look, ResCom Saved us from ourselves….
Many of the Tillis censures were identical as we networked to make them that way.
On the Zoom call when we were told of the decision to bump the Districts my computer mic was dead but I was able to scratch a question about the diluted strength of county Res going straight to the State…. Matt Judge gave a rather weak reply about all will be given proper consideration . They could not hear but they could see me screaming.
This crap they produced is … crap.
Tonight Billy will be answering some questions… I suspect he set up a ruse.
Billy Miller is a very slick operator. He has mastered the art of creating an illusion of fairness while putting his thumb on the scales for the side he is backing, which is the GOP establishment. It would be helpful for the convention to vote to replace him in the chair, but he has got too many people snowed.
Roberts Rules makes a point of emphasizing that a meeting chairman must be neutral and unbiased. Which is why said person is problematic to chair a convention. I remember hearing about the relentless disrupting, and censorship of Hasan Harnett’s defense team back in the spring of 2016 by the trial chairman. How could anyone but a conscienceless person, agree to have been a part of that lynching?
I was there for the kangaroo court on Harnett. Billy Miller ran it like a Stalin Show Trial. It was disgusting. There was one women he was blatantly refusing to let speak, so I went over and asked what it was she wanted to bring to the floor. It turned out that the NCGOP General Counsel had recently ruled on a situation in her county that was identical to the charges against Harnett, and that ruling would be favorable to Harnett’s circumstances. The insiders clearly did not want that brought up and Miller must have known who she was because he was extremely blatant in refusing to call on her.
This is NOT a guy that we want chairing our conventions.
Agreed. Billy is a bully. He will shut down anyone in the delegation to protect the establishment, or strategically place someone in the delegation to stop debate. The only way to get him removed is to vote for John Kane.
That ResCom zoom call was attended by 150+
As I suspected it was not what Billy said, but what he did not say…
Fortunately the petitioner from Grandville spotted this and had an excellent question/rebuttal and point in addressing 7D3C. If ResCom shoots down Grandville the fix is in and everyone will see it and the Rescom will wear it.
Here’s a thought for anyone attending the convention. At appropriate times throughout the business session, different people should rise and say, “Mr. Chair”. Billy responds with, “The person is recognized.” And then, “Point of information.” Billy says, “What is your Point of information?” Speaker: “Has there been any new information on whether Senator Tillis will address this convention?”
If that happens ten or twenty times, the body (many of them who don’t know better) will get the idea.
love it
I hope and pray John Kane is elected as the North Carolina State GOP Chair at the convention. If he is not, and if Michael Whatley is re-elected, I’m leaving the party. I’m not exactly sure where I’ll go or what I’ll do, but I’ll be d@#&%d if I’ll support a party led by this shameless, corrupt phony!
I left the party after Romney-McCrory and I wont vote for Tillis for anything.
South Carolina’s Zoe Warren said the following.
1.5 M voted for Trump in 2020, 1500 people donated to the SCGOP last year (2022).
The State Party is not connected to the people.
How bad are the numbers in NC for the third place team?
NC – Trump received 2,759,922 votes in 2020.
How many people donated to NCGOP last year (2022)? Was it way less than 1500?
How paltry was the real number of contributors?
Where are the State Party donors?
Did John Kane Jr. make the point that the RNC gave more to NCGOP than regular ole NC people?
I attended the State Executive Committee meeting in Charlotte back in December, as I was still a member until I retired from the NC House as of December 31. I was eager to vote for the resolution to censure Tillis, but we never got to vote on anything because we never achieved a quorum. I was suspicious then, and I still believe, that a lot of people were asked not to attend so that we would not have a quorum for the very purpose of protecting Tillis. I was also disgusted by the spectacle of Whatley and Tim Moore gushing all over each other. Having served under Tillis and then Moore as Speaker, I was an eye witness to both of them selling us out. We don’t need to let this mess go any further. I just fear there won’t be enough of us there in Greensboro to turn the tide. I understand those who are frustrated enough to leave the Party, but please don’t do it. If those who have already left had stayed in the fight, turning it around would not be as hard now as it is likely to be. Personally, I am a Republican. I figured that out when I was 10 years old and Barry Goldwater was running for President. The GOP belongs to conservatives. I can’t abandon the Party to these traitors, and I ask others not to leave, either. The self-serving elitists who are running things now must be run out of power. Every conservative who leaves weakens our ability to do that. The real Republican Party is worth the effort to save it. And while we’re at it, please DO NOT vote for Addul Ali for vice chair. I know Susan Mills is not a great conservative, either, but having lived in Cabarrus County for over 32 years and seeing the corruption spreading here, I guarantee you, Addul would be far worse.
The NCGOP was trying to get another Senator elected in Georgia so we would have more Republicans in the Senate. So, they were late getting the meeting together.. I applaud them for looking at the big picture. I didn’t attend because I had plans to visit my dying brother-in-law. Please do not assume that people who didn’t attend had some nefarious reason. When you get to mid December, people have other plans, some with family, who gets regulated to non election season visit’s because they aren’t nearby or vacations that have been put off to post election season times.
I worked with other conservatives across NC to censure Tillis. My county is listed as a contributor to the “platform resolution” put forth and it does NOT even resemble what any county listed submitted. Thom TIllis’s name is NOT even in it!
To make matters worse – the subcommittee of 2 people that crafted this, (although Whatley has repeatedly stated he submitted it) included a PAID MEMBER OF TILLIS’S STAFF! She was appointed to the resolutions committee over my objections as then NC11 District Chair. She should have been removed from this committee or recused herself from the discussion on Tillis.
Just think about that – Whatley appointed a former Burr and current Tillis staffer to Resolutions and she is on a committee of 2 people determining if we can vote on a censure supported by over 50% of counties!
Whatley weaponized the Resolutions Committee to protect Tillis ? & NOW we must make our voices heard and elect John Kane!!
Enough is enough!
This is why former NCGOP volunteers like my wife and me changed our party affiliation from R to UNA years ago. We were precinct chairs during two elections, worked to polls, and gave a great deal of money to a number of candidates in the Triangle. The NCGOP has a great platform that is nearly completely ignored. We recently met LONC Governor candidate Mike Ross and like him. He reminds us of a young Ron Paul. His web site is appropriate: FIRETHEUNIPARTY..com
Virtue signaling that you became UNA is sad. Supporting a go-nowhere unviable third party elects more Democrats.
I understand your sentiment. Many of my friends went down the same path. I seriously considered it myself.
Here’s what I perceive to be the reality of it: Anyone with any thought of running for office should not go unaffiliated. I’ve seen people try that route. It’s the hard way to do it. It’s like shooting yourself in the arse. Anyone with any thought of helping the conservatives in the Republican Party should not do it. Grassroots conservative Republicans are already facing a crooked stacked deck at pretty much all levels of the organized party already. They need every vote they can get to have any chance at all. They also need more eyes on the crooks and witnesses to their indiscretions. When we abandon conservatives on the front lines it’s like shooting them in the head.
Hell, I don’t like associating with scum either. I hate surrendering the field of battle to these dirtbags even more.
The more things change in the NCGOP, the more they remain the same. Correction on the above commentary- Billy Miller did not chair the 2016 kangaroo court hearing on NCGOP Chair Hasan Harnett. It was instead the ‘hired gun’ that Dallas Woodhouse and the mutineer cabal brought in from Texas (a certified parliamentarian, unlike Billy Miller). I spoke at length with that fellow after the hearing and he informed me the trial was over even before it started. He told me that then Vice Chair Michelle Nix could have adjourned the hearing at the gavel if she had the courage to do so (she didn’t). The hearing had been improperly called and, by rule, was an illegal meeting under our Plan of Org and Roberts Rules of Order, NR. Once the hearing was underway, the ‘hired gun’ had his marching orders to waive due process if needed to ensure Harnett was canned. Despite Dallas Woodhouse fighting against my presenting a defense of Hasan in Hasan’s absence, I was eventually permitted to act in his stead. I did my best to defend Hasan’s performance in his absence, but to no avail, NCGOP General Counsel , the late Tom Stark, interrupted me repeatedly, challenging everything I attempted to offer in defense of Harnett- even kangaroos would be ashamed of that courtroom behavior. Then Zan Bunn moved to waive consideration of matters in extenuation and mitigation, preventing any possible compromise in Hasan’s sentence, short of dismissal. We fell just 13 votes short of saving Hasan from dismissal, which I am 99% sure we could have avoided had there been the opportunity for a lesser sentence on the table. Robin Hayes was waiting in the back of the room for the predictable outcome and his subsequent nomination to take over the party (where he was then able to practice his idiosyncrasies for the next 2+ years, until he was indicted for federal crimes). In the end, Gov Pat McCrory got his wish in Hasan Harnett’s termination, and the party suffered a significant loss of grassroots support for state NCGOP leadership. Here we are 7 years later, many of the names have changed, but the manipulative behavior of our NCGOP leadership cabal continues to flourish.
Thank you, Jim Womack, for clarification and details of the efforts by Dallas Woodhouse and others to terminate Hasan Harnett as NCGOP Chair. Harnett, an impressive candidate, earned my support. Once he won election, the manipulations to oust him began. For Harnett supporters, it was sad to witness the kangaroo court in action. To your credit, you tried to represent and defend Harnett against the mob. Harnett and supporters lost the vote, and the NCGOP suffered.
Unfortunately, the more things change the more they stay the same. The manipulative behavior of the current NCGOP continues. Delegates to the state convention have the opportunity to change the leadership.. On Saturday, June 10, as a delegates from Orange County, I plan to vote for John Kane for NCGOP Chair. I encourage other delegates to vote for John Kane.
Everywhere Zan goes she does nothing but cause trouble. When will people wake up?
Jim, if he was a member of the National Association of Parliamentarians, the only group I am aware of “certifying”parliamentarians, you need to report his behavior to NAP along with the details of the meeting and his misconduct Re guarding RR. They do not take such misconduct lightly.
Tim
Formerly associated with the DE chapter of NAP.