NC Election Integrity Team names names, points fingers on open primary power play
The sneakiness used to codify open primaries for the political parties has riled quite a few folks outside the Raleigh beltline. There are good points on both sides of the argument about letting unaffiliated voters vote in Democrat or Republican primaries. But the real point of concern on the power grab this week is that it is the latest example of consolidating political power into the grubby hands of a select few in our fair capital city.
The North Carolina Election Integrity Team has been fighting the good fight for election reform and clean voting in the state for quite some time. We obtained THIS email from NC EIT president Jim Womack to some members of his team which sheds some more light and raises a few more eyebrows on this week’s shenanigans on Jones Street:
[…] All;
From talking to a dozen or so NC legislators and staff, I have come to the following conclusions about the insertion of language in Senate Bill 747 to permanently open all primaries to Unaffiliated voters in NC:1. Both Speaker Moore and Senate President Pro Tem Berger were in favor of this move to permanently open republican primaries to unaffiliated voters. I am told by staff that both believe taking the authority away from the respective state party chairmen prevents grassroots takeover in either party from upsetting the status quo in Raleigh.2. Although I did not hear this feedback directly from anyone, I believe John Kane’s run for NCGOP Chair may have spooked the House and Senate leadership this year. John ran a campaign clearly signalling support for the notion that Republicans ought to be electing Republicans in closed primaries; whereas Chairman Whatley, like his two predecessors, is fine with the status quo of open primaries. This section 17 insertion may be an indicator that legislative leadership is scared a real conservative leader might eventually take over the NC Republican Party.2. If there is one chiefly responsible person in the House for the insertion of the Section 17 language, it is House Elections Committee Chairman Grey Mills. He shepherded the PCS changes over a three week period, coordinated with his Senate counterparts, and personally managed the hearing in which this section passed out of committee.3. No republican amendments were allowed from the floor addressing this section of the bill when it came up for a full floor vote in the House. Speaker Moore controlled that process.4. Because of the importance of many key features in the S747 re-write in the House, leadership in both chambers were well aware all GOP legislators would support passage. The Section 17 language pales in comparison to the importance of the many other desirable provisions in the bill– poll observer protections, records retention changes, list maintenance changes, and cutting off receipt of ballots at 7:30PM on election day.5. This change in primaries means the percentage of registered voters affiliating with the GOP will continue declining over time. Today, Unaffiliated voters outnumber Republicans by 440,000 and that gap is expanding exponentially. Although democrat percentages continue to decline even faster than those of the GOP, the influence of center-left voters in GOP primaries will only grow over time. That influence will not, unfortunately, include an increase in funding support for the NCGOP. To the contrary, contributions from conservative donors will likely tail off over time.6. It will be very difficult to restore authority for closing primaries to the political parties, now that the authority is under the control of the general assembly.7. This is a big set-back for the conservative NCGOP rank and file.Warm Regards/Jim Womack[…]
I agree with my good friend Jim Womack. It will be difficult to restore authority for closing primaries back to the political parties, but not impossible.
It is my opinion that the bill of goods that has been sold to our legislators is shall I say……. incomplete. The fact is that the process to close primaries is a monumental task. In fact, it takes 2/3 of the delegates present at the convention just to have the issue considered. That in terms of numbers, is getting about 900 people to agree on something. I’m not sure I can get 900 people to agree that today is Friday the 18th of May, (our Lt. Governor Robinson’s birthday! Happy Birthday!).
The thought that leadership is spooked by the grassroots laughable. Their arrogance prevents them from fearing the grassroots, They should be afraid we have figured out how to actually lead from a place of principle. They should be concerned that we have figured out how to coerce a majority to our thought process.
What makes the leadership think that this is going to stop us? What makes our leaders in the legislature assume we will just fold?
Folks, this is what they just did from where I’m sitting in rural Granville County, They said out loud, you simpletons outside the beltway don’t know about sophisticated ideas. They just patted us on the head like we’re 5 year olds throwing a tantrum. They voted against the very people that nock on doors for them, make phone calls for them, raise money for them, apologize for them.
They believe that we will just accept what they’ve decided , without consequences.
They should be careful because I believe what they’ve really done is infuriate the rank an file.
Maybe we can persuade some of our legislators in both chambers to stand on their conservative principles and restore the opportunity for the parties to decide what is best for them.
Our legislators should ask what would it take for the grassroots to close the primary? I don’t know about you, but I didn’t get one phone call. Legislators, you’ve been deceived. I suggest you reconsider.
There is a big problem in our party with elected politicians at both the state and federal level who who don’t give a rats ass what Republican activists and voters think about policy. That has become readily apparent in recent years at both levels. Some states have a mechanism to keep a handle on those we elect to further our principles so that there is a way to give them pushback if they get off the reservation. That is allowing party organizations to make endorsements in primaries. In some states, the official party endorsements are even printed right on the primary ballot. North Carolina has gotten to a point that allowing official party endorsements is something we should seriously consider. Even if those endorsements only rarely get made, the fact that they can be will help make elected officials think twice before kicking the grassroots in the teeth on legislation. It will help level the playing field with special interest money.
As it is, the national Republican leadership in House and Senate intervene in primaries all the time. For example, Kevin McCarhty dumped a bunch of money in the 1st district GOP primary for Congress last year to trash Sandy Smith and push liberal candidate Sandy Roberson. The State Senate GOP caucus (i.e. leadership) has been caught intervening in legislative primaries like the one reported on this site in Moore County a couple of years ago.. Why should they be able to do that when the hands of the party organization are tied behind our backs by prohibiting endorsements?
Endorsements by a party unit should require a super majority, perhaps 2/3rds or 3/4ths, and they will have more impact if made sparingly when there is a real reason to do so. Party organizations that got involved in primaries last year included Wyoming which officially took the position that Liz Cheney was no longer a Republican and endorsed her primary opponent, and Alaska which censured incumbent liberal Senator Lisa Murkowski and endorsed her conservative primary opponent.
During the past conventions when I served on the NCGOP Plan of Organization committee, I opposed changing our tradition of prohibiting primary endorsements by the party, but times have now drastically changed. It is a mechanism to counter the evil influence of special interest money. It needs to be considered. Even if it does not get used very often, the grassroots needs this tool in its toolbox.
This is an interesting viewpoint. Perhaps weighing in on primary elections could be an alternative for us.
I misspoke. The 18th of August. Not May. Sorry for the mistake.
This is just one more outrage from our corrupt legislative “leadership” in both houses. With “Republicans” like these, who even needs Democrats? And power plays that make a mockery of transparency in government make me want to puke. Berger and Moore and their leadership teams run the legislature like mafia capos and it is disgusting.
Right now, they are trying similar disgusting power plays to ram casinos down our throats as the DH has reported. They did it earlier this year with the Obamacare Medicaid expansion. They did it last year with the NC Green New Deal, and the sneaky and underhanded way that was done is detailed in this article: https://www.beaufortcountynow.com/post/48970/ncs-green-new-deal-the-anatomy-of-a-betrayal.html
There is not a dime’s worth of difference between Berger and Moore on one hand and Schumer and Pelosi on the other. Berger Republicans and Moore Republcians need to be totally eleiminatedc in the primaries. THROW THE RASCALS OUT. If we don’t get these scoundrels in the primaries, it is time for conservatives to simply go on strike in the General and withhold our votes for these despicable scumbags.
Jim Womack & his team have done a GREAT job bringing Election Integrity to NCGA & getting reforms passed. MANY THANKS Jim!!
10/4 David Gleeson
Conservatives in NC do a great Charlie Brown trying to kick Lucy’s football imitation. Want to punch out these phony GOP legislators? Walk en masse out of the ncgop and take over the NC Constitution Party and start playing hardball.
You’ve suggested that several times, Toxhandler. Please lead the way! Many will follow you! (I’ll be one of them!)
This is where I am. Lifelong Republican, solid conservative, and I have absolutely had it. Changed my party affiliation to the Constitution Party earlier this year after that Medicaid BS they pulled. This is the only way to to get the rats nest of cowards in Raleigh to listen to those of us in the grassroots. TIME TO FIGHT!
The combination of an absurd 30% treshold to “win” a primary, and allowing non-Republicans to vote in our primaries is a recipe for outsiders hijacking Republican nominations in North Carolina and it is the idiots in General Assembly “leadership” who gave us both of those in a sneaky and dishonest manner. How many party activists are going to respect a 30% nominee as a legitimate nominee of our party? If we start nominating more liberals like Tillis, the Republican base is going to sit on their hands in disgust. Whose side is our crooked swampy “Republican leadership” in the General Assembly really on? It is way past time to throw the bums OUT. Phil Berger and Tim Moore are behaving with every bit of the arrogance of Liston Ramsey and Marc Basnight.
And why is the incompetent leadership of the NCGOP sitting like a deer in the headlights while all of this is going on?
When the system is rigged against the party activists and the grassroots, they are going to find other ways to participate or just drop out. One way might be what happened in the US Senate election in New York in 1970. Liberal Republican incumbent Senator Charles Goodell was running for re-election, and the system was rigged against primary challenges. So Jim Buckley ran under the banner of the Conservative Party of New York and defeated Goodell and a substantial Democrat in a 3-way race. If our legislative “leadership” keeps playing the games they have been playing against the party activists and the grassroots, and the NCGOP keeps looking the other way, both of them are going to wake up facing North Carolina’s Jim Buckley, or maybe a bunch of local Jim Buckleys running for legislative seats. And instead of the Constitution Party, they may well call themselves the “MAGA Party”.
It is in the interest of the Republican Party and the conservative movement, both, that the 30% threshhold AND the open primary diktat be rescinded.
What is particularly appalling is that this legislation strips the Republican Party of control and shifts it to the legislative leadership, and nobody at NCGOP apparent did or said anything about it. Under the current system, the party at county and state level have control of who represernts us on our boards of election, but that will now shift to the legislative leadership. What happens when a squishy legislator wants his buddy on a county BOE instead of the local party’s choice and he lobbies his chamber leader for that appointment? What chance does the local party activist have? How is putting a buddy of a squishy legislator, and we have way to many of those in both GOP caucuses, going to protect election integrity? IT WON’T.
And then there is the issue of control of whether outsiders can vote in our primaries, again taken away from the party.
Whatley is a disgrace for failing to stand up for the party’s interests in these matters. He is worthless. John Kane would have not stood still for this travesty and power grab.
I think it was in 2006 that I had such a case of Republican indigestion that I went UNA.
B Hussain O quickly sent me back to Republican. Then came the TeaParty, thank God.
From that time til present what gains the grassroots has delivered are obviously unappreciated and seem to be threatening to those that just can’t seem to ever quite get enough control to insure their seat on the $$$$ train.
Open primaries can be very damaging in nominating bad candidates. In 2008, John McCain got the momentum that made him unstoppable for the nomination from winning the primaries in New Hampshire and South Carolina, both open primaries. Exit polls showed that if only registered Republicans had been voting, John McCain would have lost both state primaries which would have put him out of contention for the presidential nomination. It was open primaries that took a terrible senator and made him the Republican’s terrible presidential nominee who lost the general election.. John McCain is the poster boy for why we need closed primaries. Open primaries on the GOP side is what gave us Barack Obama.
This affects The Constitution Party and the Green Party as they are the only two parties that choose closed primaries. I can speak on behalf of the Constitution Party we are looking to sue over this and based on cases in Idaho and Colorado we should win and this law be overturned. It would help our case if we had a joint lawsuit. This move is unconstitutional. Why would any party want outsiders choosing their nominee. This is why tillis and moore keep getting back in office. Non republicans push them through the primaries
THANK YOU for suing them! God be with you.
The potential for hijacking primaries is even greater with a small party like those two parties, but if we had real leadership in the NCGOP, they would also be suing. This is a travesty for all political parties.
On how this can impact small parties, I remember some decades ago when the communist US Labor Party got on the NC ballot. Their members were a very small cadre of communist activists. The first election that came up was municipal elections, and Charlotte, where they had a handful of activists who were party members was one of the few cities with partisan elections. So they filed one of their communist acitivsits for mayor. A local hippie who decided he wanted to run for mayor as a lark went down to the Board of Elections and decided to run as US Labor Party because it did not have many members voting in its primary. He got all his commune members to register US Labot Party and won their primary, with the real party squawking loudly about “conspiracies” and “Rockefeller stooges” and the like. The hippie proceeded to run as their nominee with posters saying he was running on the “Grand Old Labor Party” which further infuriated them.
You may want to point that example out to your lawyers. If memory serves, it happened in the 1970s, and it shows how easily the primary of a small party can be hijacked. In that case the hippies actually registered US Labor Party, but it is now MUCH easier to do if they only had to get people to registered Unaffiliated. (In those days, there was no Unaffiliated status. One could register “Independent”, in which case they had to formally switch to a party weeks before primary day to vote or they could register “No Party”, in which case they could take a party primary ballot on primary day by asking for one, but that act automatically re-registered them in the party whose ballot they took)